11 months ago 11 months ago Hmmm… by LolSnaps 11 months ago11 months ago Post PaginationPrevious PostPreviousNext PostNextLike it? Share with your friends! 44 44 points perthaussieguy So he practised what he preached and voluntarily gave up his salary and benefits? ….. Oh, silly me, why did I think that !!!! (arrogant, selfish, dickhead that he is) PATMAN Yep. No food stamps for him! https://m.facebook.com/khloebriglio BlackSwan But a nice big fat check. Our taxes got to go toward buying cocaine… Gregor If he takes enough at once then at least he would no longer be a problem to anyone anymore Marcus And? Is he able to support himself and his habit? Is he dependent on taxpayers? So he likes a little naughty chalk for breakfast, does that mean he does not make a good point? sniz_and_fondue LOL, did you seriously just ask the question “Is he dependent on taxpayers?” ? “Is he dependent on taxpayers?” “Is he dependent on taxpayers?” “Is he dependent on taxpayers?” Hmm, well, they DO pay all his salary and all of his medical benefits (many of these are for life), so I dunno, “Is he dependent on taxpayers?” Marcus Apologies Mr. Snippy, I should have phrased my question a little better: “Is he a burden on the taxpayer or does he contribute to society?” “Does he earn his income or does he live on welfare?” See the difference yet? sniz_and_fondue Bubba, you should stop posting, you’re just embarrassing… Do you have a problem with people that need welfare? Are they somehow less of a human being? Are you saying just because you are on welfare you do not contribute to society? You automatically become a burden? Gosh, let’s talk to businesses like Walmart that actually build into their business model that takes into account people going on some sort of public assistance so they can keep wages and benefits low. No, sir, I’m afraid I don’t “See the difference yet”. You can stop replying to me because I’m afraid sir, I never will. Peace. Zombiehamster Not person you are originally replying to, but still… Personally I think he should be fired. I don’t have anything against people on welfare. I believe a lot of people genuinely need it. I also believe there are a lot of poor lazy assholes out there, just like there are a lot of rich lazy assholes. However, if you need to have help buying food, there is no way in he’ll you should be able to support a drug habit. And yes if you are supporting one, I think you should lose your food stamps. Now they have to choose either use their money for food instead of getting high, or get completely clean, get back on food stamps and use the money you used to spend on drugs on something more important. Haze1nut I’ve no problem with welfare, i would rather have 100 people game the system than 1 kid go to bed hungry, but im just going to point out that taxpayers paying his salary and him being dependent on taxpayers arent the same thing and you damn well know it. A salary is payment for a job. Welfare is not. Seriously i realize this is the internet and it is full of SJW these days but the one embarrassing himself here is you. You sound like one of those cunts that goes around screaming at cops and firemen how they work for you because you pay taxes. Then you went off on some random walmart pay rant just to top it off. Calm down, buddy. Gregor He commits crimes for fun, that is what is wrong with him, whether or not cocaine should be legal or is besides the question but he beliefs that he is allowed to commit crimes and tells others that they are not allowed sniz_and_fondue The absolute definition of an Asshole. Rules are for others, not for me. Sirperry I see it differently.. I think he believes he can do what he feels like with guess own money that he earned through his job, while if you are receiving money without having to work for it, you should be using it on requirements instead of unnecessary pleasures. Gregor The main problem i see is that he is a hypocrite claiming that he is above the law and feels that he may dictate how others MUST obey laws. I do not feel that i have to listen to people that feel that they do not have to abbey the same laws i do, or do you feel that people with money can pick their own laws to obey? Sirperry Well I feel that most people do choose which laws they obey, regardless of their bank accounts. I don’t know a single person that doesn’t break some laws. Most of them are pretty much victimless crimes though. That being said I don’t care who does what drugs. Not my business what someone does for leisure as long as it doesn’t affect me. A guy who works his job and pays his bills, and enjoys a little nose candy doesnt affect me. A person who doesnt work, and gets paid through social assistance affects me already, So I think it’s fair to expect those people to use their assistance for necessities, instead of drugs and alcohol. Gregor That is not at issue, he is a lawmaker and breaking the laws he stands for, that can never be acceptable Sirperry Do you follow every law? Gregor Again, that is not the issue, HE is a lawmaker they are not supposed to unilaterally decide that they do not have to follow laws that they find inconvenient. If he is so for law and justice then he either obeys the current laws or changes those relevant and makes cocaine legal Sirperry So you’re saying that you don’t follow every law but other people better make sure they follow all the laws? Gregor How is my behaviour relevant in this, HE is the hypocrite thinking that he can break laws while claiming that others have to obey the law, the fact that you appear to not understand this makes that talking to you is rather pointless, so i will leave it at this, maybe you can take some lessons in logic en comprehensive reading so you might actually understand this. Sirperry So, it’s ok for you to be a hypocrite, but it’s not ok for him to be a hypocrite. brujah1381 The results of the program are that they spend a lot of many drug testing people and find very few actual drug users so it ends up costing more money than it saves by getting addicts off the roles. The hypocrisy is just an additional bonus. ThatGuy naughty chalk hahahaha Sunset Devils Lettuce ^^ ThatGuy haha yeah, I love all these funny names for drugs. makes me giggle Rokas Akanichas In order to defeat the enemy, you must first know the enemy! Carlos the Dwarf Hypocrisy and karma, a beautiful combination. Christopher Well doing drugs on welfare and doing drugs when you have a job are kinda different Carlos the Dwarf How so? Christopher well when you have a job you make your own money to pay for drugs… if you’re on welfare you get money without a job… Not saying drugs is good but spending your own money vs spending my tax dollars make a difference to me .. Carlos the Dwarf I know several people that have jobs and still need food stamps. Just curious, what percentage of a person’s life do you feel you should get to control if they receive public assistance? Do you get to choose where they live, clothes they wear, types of food they are allowed to eat, guests they are allowed to have? You wouldn’t want them to live in too nice of a place, or wear too fashionable clothes. How dare they have a steak or some shrimp on your dime. Hope they don’t feed a friend or a family member with their windfall from the public coffers. I think there are areas that misuse your tax dollars to a far greater degree than welfare recipients, but we all have our own priorities. Cayne I think My biggest deal is how damaging it is to being able to get/keep a job. Do I think weed should be on the no go list… no… do I still think people should be drug tested to be on welfare. yea I really do. Carlos the Dwarf To each their own, but if it is wasting your tax dollars that concerns you, drug testing costs more than it saves. Corporations that receive tax breaks or have business plans that pay their employees so little that the employees need public assistance are beneficiaries of public assistance. Are you in favor of drug testing these corporate officials as well? these officials would certainly be able to run their companies better if they didn’t indulge in drugs. Cayne to be honest with you yea I do think they should. I think you should be required to get drug tested for anything that is harmful to a person’s health. I also think we should go back prohibition and get rid of alcohol too because of the damage it causes. I think that the entire government needs a huge kick in the pants. lobbying needs to not be a thing… the list goes on. there is a lot of shit that is wrong and fixing one thing isn’t gonna do it. but it is all we have and it’s where I stand on the matter Carlos the Dwarf Well, at least you don’t seem like you wish to attack the poor. The biggest accomplishment of prohibition was causing organized crime to flourish. It did nothing to reduce the amount of alcohol consumption. Neither the medical community nor the FDA can reliably determine what is harmful to a person’s health, so I’m not sure how you will manage that. I can’t say that I would mind seeing lobbyists and those who take their money come to a quick and violent end. I don’t see things changing; because voters cannot maintain their outrage for long enough to vote people out of office. As the 2018 elections approach, you will see the government settle down and hurtful tax plans, social security cuts, healthcare elimination, etc. will fade. Christopher Well drugs are illegal Even if you have your own job to pay for it ai just feel it’s worst if you do waste money on it that was given to you and paid for with tax dollars… I mean how would you feel if your friend asked you for money cause his family was hungry and you found out he bought drugs instead? Carlos the Dwarf You seem to want to change the parameters of what we are talking about, but ok. The illegality isn’t really the issue, since the CEO is just as guilty as the welfare recipient. If my friend’s family is hungry, I feed them, and I try to help my friend. If I am administering a huge aid program, I dispense the aid in the most efficient and equitable manner possible. In a large group of people, there will always be some that take advantage of the situation and use the aid in a manner it was not intended for. Imposing draconian measures on the entire group in the hopes of weeding out a few seems a poor use of my allotted resources. Take this to its logical conclusion and eliminate aid programs. That way no one can take unfair advantage of public aid. All you have to do in this circumstance is be willing to watch people starve. I would rather feed someone or several someones that didn’t deserve it than to deny aid to someone that does deserve it. Christopher Sorry I wasn’t commenting on his drug bust but on people commenting that his plan to have walfare recipients get a drug test is flawed because he did drugs himself… wether or not he is an idiot for doing drugs I still agree that walfare recipients should have drug tests. And not saying that we should end welfare either. Justin Geer Deploy the golden parachute in 3..,2..,1….. Sunset A golden parachute reminds me of a lead zeppelin 😀 pea ness You should still have to take a drug test if you get food stamps cause most people who get them are just drug addicted niggers anyway. Ara Raven Dude. Twice in ten minutes? Take a chill pill or something, that kinda thing ain’t okay here. Andre Poreskin You again? Are you new here and are trying to show off or something? Your troll skills are weak so I’m going to guess you’re about 10 or 11? The People’s Poet https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b754028bb425f1c8a0e2c9147055671e057ba7a12ea6b04de6726ca8043e1d17.jpg LOLWUT Cocaine he bought with money from a paycheck he worked for. Not with money from a food stamp he got from other people working and sold for cash… Gregor So it’s ok to commit crimes when you make your own money then? LOLWUT I guess that all depends on if you think just because something is illegal that it’s wrong to do… But if said law is an unjust law, than breaking it is completely fine. But your fallacy is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the said action being illegal or not. It has to do with whether you buy your products with money stolen from me by the government in order to provide you with food to eat. Or if you earn your money and spend it on whatever you want. What’s happening here is that people are forcing the government to rob me so that poor people can buy things other than cocaine. If a homeless man picks up trash for $20 and spends every last penny on cocaine. That’s cool. I’m fine with it. But if you’re using money stolen from me to get high, then yes. It’s not okay. Gregor You make some really weird assertions, laws are laws even if we might disagree with them, what if i decide that robbing you is ok because i do not feel it is a just law? And about the tax being stealing, well you could of course move to a country without a government and see how much you like not having to pay taxes. How about if they would not use drugs but drink themselves insensible with alcohol, would that make it right, it’s still the same money LOLWUT I love when people are so ignorant about taxes and make the argument, “well you could move to another country to get away from paying taxes…” WRONG. Even if you don’t live in the United States, they still require you to pay taxes and report earnings. Unless you give up your citizenship. But if you give up your citizenship, there’s a tax on that too. So no, you’re wrong. Moving to another country doesn’t free you from the grasp of government theft. So, you’re saying that run away slaves, which broke the law, should be punished? That you’re okay with slavery because it was legislated and legal. And yes, sure, if you want to get your head blown off, come try and rob me. But that’s another fallacy in itself. Someone consuming something without affecting anyone else is not the same as someone going out of their way to affect another human being. If there is no victim, there is no crime. Tattooing yourself, body modification, alcohol and cigarettes are all legal and so such cocaine be. But, seeing as how you’re a vacuum devoid of logic and arguing something as simple as common sense with you is pointless, I will end this conversation. I see your fallacies so I’ll leave you with one, myself. Gregor I do not disagree that there are stupid laws but doing crimes while also being a law maker means that you now are a wonderful target for blackmail and since you in that powerful position have decided that laws are not nearly so important to keep then what is to say that you do not break other more serious laws too, so i will no longer continue on this subject because your arguments on this are downright insane. If you go to a country without a government (you might learn how to comprehend what you read, it will make things ever so much easier) then there is by definition no tax, there may be complications when you wish to go into a country where there are in fact laws but while you are in the region of anarchy you are beyond tax plain and simple (if not very safe) And about the robbery, well you are not the one to decide what is harm to others and what not, the laws are the way they are and you do not get to decide which ones are ok to break that is simply the long and the short of it, if you can decide then anyone else can make their own choice even if you disagree with it. And the most import thing is that LAWMAKERS should not break laws, if they feel a law is not right then they should set out to make better ones. Christopher But the difference is he had a job and not getting free handouts and knowing his boss wouldn’t you do drug too??