3 months ago 3 months ago We’re living in 2019, this guy’s living in 2039 by Staff 3 months ago3 months ago ADVERTISEMENT Post PaginationPrevious PostPreviousNext PostNext Like it? Share with your friends! 17 17 points rick Pity those locks can be cracked in under a minute. Entity If you are talking about the pen thing then it only works with the old versions, it took about 4 years for the lock companies to respond to the problem but now most if not all, including kryptonite, have something to prevent that from working. If you mean just straight picking it with a tubular pick or regular pick for non-tubular keyed ones, then yeah, same as any other pin and tumbler or wafer lock. rick Disk detainers with false gates would be a good basic standard since they require specialist tools which you aren’t going to be making out of wiper blade inserts, hack saw blades or get for $10 off Wish, etc. Wafer locks are trash; I’m honestly surprised companies still use them and can claim any sort of security since I’ve seen novice lock sport folk beat then in under a minute with a basic wafer pick. Daniel Emberton as some1 pretty well versed in lockpicking…can confirm wafers are fucking useless.. might as well not bother locking it at all tbh lol Entity I’m a total novice, learned the most basic basics 15 years ago and didn’t keep it up. Had to open a door the other day and gave up after an hour. I blame playing guitar, but I was never much good to start off with. Entity The best use I have seen for a wafer lock was on a banham product that was the usual p&t with a funny keyway but then on the side of the key was a second impression for a wafer lock housed inside the same barrel as the p&t. Even if you picked one of them, you wouldn’t know you had succeeded until you also successfully picked the other. The keyway was ludicrously tight turns that did not lend itself to getting anything in there. Really cool lock if you’re into that sort of thing. Fokke Or in a shitty neighborhood. perthaussieguy WA vehicles must have immobilisers installed. Been decades since I saw one of those in use. Rev. Analbumcover Why must they have those installed? Is car theft such a problem there that laws were passed requiring car owners to make it more difficult to steal their cars? perthaussieguy Different states have different vehicle requirements. In NSW you had to get a vehicle roadworthy check every year to renew your car licence, here in WA you don’t. It’s baffling sometimes. Rev. Analbumcover I can understand requiring a roadworthiness check. I can also understand not requiring one. I’m not sure I grasp the purpose behind requiring an immobilizer, though. Unless car theft is so rampant it’s causing societal problems? It’s sort of like requiring homeowners to install deadbolt locks and Lexan windows. perthaussieguy I think it may have been a response to a high car theft rate many, many years ago. Also, many household insurance companies offer a premium reduction for deadbolts and window locks. Rev. Analbumcover Ah, that makes sense. I don’t know how easy it was to hotwire cars in the 1970s, but it was stupidly easy to break into them, at least for GM cars and trucks. The first time I tried it took me about 10 seconds using a coat hangar. I can see how car theft could have become epidemic. It probably was here as well in some areas. perthaussieguy Before coming to WA 17 years ago I can recall using steering wheel locks mainly as a deterrent as they were easy to pick but all adds to the time factor for a thief. Das Puggy It will take seconds to saw through the steering wheel and the seat. Rev. Analbumcover What if the steering wheel has a tungsten carbide core? Das Puggy What car has one? Rev. Analbumcover Lots of them do, as far as you know. 😉 Das Puggy Okay, you got me there.